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Should you ask about salary, benefits, vacation in an interview?

Wednesday, January 16th, 2013 by Judi

you're not hiredThis isn’t the first time I’ve expressed concern about career advice and those who offer it, but this time I need to make it an example.  It was posted in LinkedIn by a recruiter who, as a recruiter, should know better. 

Toward the end of an interview the interviewer will typically turn to you and ask “Do you have any questions?” It is always good to be prepared for this question and to have good thought out questions to respond with. Things that are always good to ask about are company benefits, pay day schedule, management set-up, what does a typical day in this job look like? – those kinds of questions keep the conversation going and show your interest in the position. 

Can you spot the mistake?   Yes, it’s asking about company benefits and pay schedule. Add vacation and salary to those items.  

The money/benefits/vacation part is a game, but not really.  Some people do make money the priority in their job search, but that puts the cart before the horse.  If you focus on money to the exclusion of factors such as chemistry, company culture, if the job has components that motivate you and make you happy to work there, you might very well find yourself unhappy fairly quickly.  .

Sell yourself to the highest bidder without regard for the other factors and if you’re unhappy, eventually your salary won’t to be enough to compensate you for being unhappy in your job.   And if you were desperate to be employed, once the relief of having a job wears off and reality sets in, that’s what you might discover.

The point of an interview is to find out if both you and the company are right for each other.  Until you each know more about the other party, it’s impossible for either of you to assess the value of the other.  Companies ask about salary early on, but their purpose is to determine if you’re within their range and if you’re realistic about your expectations.    

Value comes with knowing the benefits of having that item and attaching yourself to it.  For instance,    perhaps you’ve decided to buy a car and you’ve capped the price at $30K.  You receive a phone call from someone with a cherry red convertible in perfect condition with a new stereo and white leather seats.  But it’s $37K. 

More than likely you’ll say no, because it has no value to you. But what if you decide to go look at it?  You drive it.  The sun is on your face and the wind is in your hair.  You begin to rationalize why $37K is feasible. 

It’s no different with salary.   Making a decision based on an early salary discussion eliminates discovering the value the company may have to both you and your career.

This doesn’t mean salary is unimportant.  One of my retained clients has an offer for $74K.  In her previous job in slightly different capacity she earned $90K more.  At the onset of her search, she set her bottom line at $80K   But now she’s enthusiastic about both the position and the company and behind the scenes I’m helping her negotiate.  What if she’d learned the salary first and never given herself the chance to learn more?  

Asking the salary at all is not only unimpressive to the company, it’s more than likely to get you withdrawn from consideration.  A company wants someone who wants them for who they are, not for the pay check.  If you’ll join their company for money, you can be hired away for money.   The only companies who don’t follow that are the ones you don’t want to work for.

bad credit? employer credit check? no worries!

Tuesday, May 18th, 2010 by Judi Perkins

bad creditIn addition to drug testing and often fingerprinting, companies both national and international have also required credit checks.  But it’s become more the norm than the exception, because with the extreme number of people applying, companies have implemented it as a means of indicating a candidate’s character.

Unfortunately for the many who have been out of work so long they’ve destroyed their credit, a credit check strikes fear in their hearts.  What if the company rescinds the job offer?  It becomes a catch-22.  You can’t repair your credit without a job, and you can’t get a job without good credit.

The solution for some candidates is to confess immediately.  This results in eliminating them from consideration, which perpetuates their fear.  To make the credit check issue virtually non-existent and remove the fear from the entire equation, let’s factor in some basic psychology.

As humans, we have the inclination to rationalize what we want.  The more something is of value to us, the more we exclude from the picture anything that might impede our ability to obtain it.  When you apply this to the hiring situation, it means that a job seeker, about to receive an offer, has value to the company.  Consequently, the candidate’s bad credit becomes relatively unimportant to them. 

By contrast, when you confess in your cover letter, you’re guaranteed not to hear from the company.  When you admit to it during your first interview, you’ve just screened yourself out.  Early in the process the company is still looking for reasons eliminate candidates.  When you confess to having bad credit you’re not getting points for honesty; you’re shooting yourself in the foot.

Factoring in additional psychology, most people don’t like surprises, certainly companies about to extend an offer.  When you combine the relative degree of value with the effect of being surprised, the solution becomes much easier: tell them about your credit, but not until they’re about to extend and offer and consequently do the credit check.  You have value to them, and you’ve removed the surprise.  The result? The whole matter is brushed aside.

When an offer is imminent, there are phrases that will clue you in.   To begin with, you’re generally aware of when you’re in the final stages of the process, if not when you’re the final candidate.  The interviewers tend to smile a lot and say positive statements that join you both together.  Or they request references.  Failing that, they’ll make you an offer and expect you to take a few days to consider it.  Now’s the time to bring it up. 

Another tip:  what you say and how you say it influences how the information is received.  In other words, the bigger the deal you make of it, the more attention they’ll give it.  When you share the information with a smile, and in an informative, but off-handed way, you’re communicating that it’s no big deal. 

Wording would be something like, “By the way, I want to let you know that during the long period I was unemployed and juggling my bills, I ruined my credit.  Since you’ll be doing a credit check, will my temporary bad credit be a problem?” 

Yet more psychology: notice the inclusion of the word temporary, as well as the explanation for the bad credit.  You’re satisfying their unspoken question of “why?’ which is likely to put them on edge about the subject, and at the same time, you’re telling them that it’s not the normal state of affairs. All they really want to know is that you’re responsible and not a constant excuse maker. 

Bad credit and bankruptcy are usually accompanied by mitigating circumstances such as lengthy unemployment or an irresponsible spouse and divorce proceedings.  We’re human.  Companies understand this because they’re composed of humans.  So instead of losing sleep, remember that by the time the credit check happens, they’re more concerned about getting you on board.